Michael Sonby ([info]crimsonjoe) wrote,
@ 2008-09-04 12:31:00
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Obama and Palin
Two sides of the same coin:

* Young
* Relatively Inexperienced (four years as a Senator vs. Two Years as a Governor)
* Charismatic
* Is considered a bright prospect for their party, who is in a position of power much sooner than anyone would have suspected
* Solid, stable families that they rely on
* Give off a feeling of being normal that reassures people, compared to most politicians
* Is considered to have rather 'extreme' political positions
* Has been associated with a church with radical beliefs (Jeremiah Wright or Jews for Jesus)
* Bring a level of excitement to their parties that was missing. The excitement I've seen from the GOP on Palin is EXACTLY the same excitement that Obama brought the Democrats earlier in the year.

No wonder people are acting so crazy talking about either one of them- they are practically mirror images of each other. The number of people I've seen who have loved one and froth at the mouth over the other is incredible.

I like Palin. I like Obama- I just disagree with his ideas. And I don't think either is ready to be President. But I'm trying not to slip into the pools of vitriol that seem to be everywhere.


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[info]ratrangerm
2008-09-04 07:16 pm UTC (link)
What the Palin nomination has done makes me shake my head for both sides.

For the Democrats, they are now spending more of their time worrying about Palin than they are about McCain. They need to be focusing their efforts on McCain and reminding everybody that he is the guy running for President and it's his policies that need to be questioned. Palin may bring some strengths to the table, but ultimately, it's the guy in the top seat who has the most presence.

As for the Republicans, the fact it seems more of them are excited about the vice-presidential nominee than the Presidential nominee is pretty telling. They are more excited about the second banana than the lead banana, as it were. Yet it's the lead banana, again, who will have the most presence. The real question some Republicans should be asking themselves is "I may like Palin a lot, but do I really support McCain himself?"

Now, things could change after McCain delivers his speech. We'll see... but I just worry about people on both sides when they are talking more about the veep nominee for one party rather than who is actually the person that will really be front and center in the executive office come January 2009.

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[info]kidzero
2008-09-04 08:35 pm UTC (link)
With Palin there will finally be someone in the White House I would want to look at. :)



P.S. I got time off after the 18th. Whattaya doing?

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extreme?
(Anonymous)
2008-09-07 12:03 am UTC (link)
I'm curious, which of Obama's positions (and I'll be honest, he's got my vote) do you see as extreme?

To be fair, I see Palin's endorsement of teaching creationism as a little extreme. Her brief foray into book banning seems a little extreme. What has Obama done that you see as similarly "out there"?

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Re: extreme?
[info]crimsonjoe
2008-09-07 01:56 am UTC (link)
Overall, Barack Obama has voted with his party 96% of the time, making him one of the most partisan Seantors in Congress.

For a specific example, his opposition to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act is an extreme pro-abortion view.

And in the deabtes he's quoted as saying he would:


A: What I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

Which is a bad reason for raising taxes, as most studies have shown that raising taxes would reduce the amount of revenue the government would have. (Then again, I think we're ridiculously overtaxed anyways)

As for Palin teaching creationism, I thought that she's not opposed to teaching Creationism, but she's not pushing it either. Here's an article about that issue.

The more I see of Sarah Palin, the more I like her potential. She seems to govern with a more Libertarian philosophy than anyone who's been in the White House in a long time. But 20 months isn't enough time to really see how she is as a Governor. Win or lose, I hope she does well during the next two months so we can see her run a national campaign from the start in 2012.

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